tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post1538447422476473764..comments2022-11-11T22:28:52.909+00:00Comments on Middle Class Dub: Internet crusaders target all Muslims, not just extremistsColm Ó Broinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08253947161759084842noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-2307344746995879132011-11-11T17:24:59.001+00:002011-11-11T17:24:59.001+00:00@ Mr Colm O Broin,
Have you so quickly forgotten ...@ Mr Colm O Broin,<br /><br />Have you so quickly forgotten the campaigns for "gay-free zones"? Has the recent story of the gay MP Mike Freer, being explicity attacked and insulted for his sexuality been missed by you?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN6CHtGGo4g&feature=relmfu<br /><br />Look at a map for how many countries use Sharia systems.<br /><br />Perhaps you missed the Channel 4 documentary about Britian's Sex Gangs in where it was made clear that Muslims are raping non-Muslim White women. Oh but it's "racist" or "islamophobic" that Muslims are singled out for these crimes. Except they are disproportionate in rape crimes and of course the nature of the crimes, grooming underage girls and gang rape.<br /><br />When it comes down to it, Muslims are the predominant instigators of irrational hate and violence.<br /><br />They were killing Buddhists in Afghanistan, not because they were in any way a threat, but because they were kafir; the designated enemies of Islam.<br /><br />The point is that if you want to aim for the root of intolerance, then it goes beyond Robert Spencer and anti-Jihadists and it starts with Islam. Cause and effect.Halyconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-33090572931229801362011-11-10T12:45:55.095+00:002011-11-10T12:45:55.095+00:00Halcyon,
You said sharia is being imposed. It is ...Halcyon,<br /><br />You said sharia is being imposed. It is not. If people are being intimidated into attending sharia courts they can go to the police and complain. If sharia courts are breaking the law the people involved should be investigated.<br /><br />I asked why stonings, amputaions etc weren't legal in Pakistan and Bangladesh and you responded with an illegal lynching. Out of the 50 plus Muslim majority countries how many enforce Sharia fully?<br /><br />I'm aware of the persecution of Hindus, Christians, Shia and Ahmadiyya Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh. It would be hypocritical to oppose the demonization of minorities in those countries while supporting it in Europe and America - this is a basic point which hardly needs to be explained.Colm Ó Broinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355888629941490877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-19430389880163875012011-11-07T16:11:49.054+00:002011-11-07T16:11:49.054+00:00Thanks for the great articles, hope you do not min...Thanks for the great articles, hope you do not mind I reposted! www.hassanshibly.comHassan Shiblyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13665695531004280460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-89439870042663418852011-11-05T11:39:20.249+00:002011-11-05T11:39:20.249+00:00@ Colm O Broin
Civitas reports that there are 85 ...@ Colm O Broin<br /><br />Civitas reports that there are 85 Sharia courts operating in Britain if not more.<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jun/29/sharia-courts-illegal-advice-claims<br /><br />And women do get stoned in Pakistan<br /><br />http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/rare-video-shows-taliban-allegedly-stoning-woman-death/story?id=11717682<br /><br />If you want to talk about Bangladesh and Pakistan, then how do non-Muslims fare over there?Halyconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-15710166829639759602011-11-03T16:03:09.618+00:002011-11-03T16:03:09.618+00:00Halcyon, sharia is not enforced in any part of the...Halcyon, sharia is not enforced in any part of the UK despite the wishes of a handful of fanatics putting up stickers. One thing I don't get about the 'creeping sharia' argument is how and why Muslims in the UK (who are mostly of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin) would enforce sharia when it is not fully implemented (ie amputations, stonings etc) in Pakistan and Bangladesh themselves (or most other Muslim majority countries for that matter).Colm Ó Broinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355888629941490877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-16700173801282315282011-11-01T23:04:06.134+00:002011-11-01T23:04:06.134+00:00@ Colm O Brien
Thank you for replying.
The probl...@ Colm O Brien<br /><br />Thank you for replying.<br /><br />The problem with just going after the extermists is that the Islamisation process still continues. Here in Britain they are kicking out radical preachers and yet hatred and intolerance can still be found being taught in Mosques. They have created "no-go" areas that are unsafe for non-Muslims and where Sharia is being imposed. These are parallel societies with no desire to integrate but only maintain isolation by vilifying us; the kafir, the disbelievers, the infidels. <br /><br />Muslims have shown consistently that they do not do enough to fight radicals and extremists. Just look at the Arab Spring where Islamist parties are coming about because the Muslim majorities voted for them.<br /><br />With UN blasphemy laws, political correctness and of course; death threats and intimidation from Muslims. People like Robert Spencer are likely to recieve threats against them, whilst you are free, safe and comfortable to criticise a man who risks his life saying what he does.<br /><br />All non-Muslims are beginning to feel subdued and we feel we are losing our liberties because of Muslims supremacism.<br /><br />With the Muslim demographic expanding, Muslim immigration and dawah (proselytization), the question is only when will Muslims become the majority. When that happens we will see what Robert Spencer constantly predicted with the Arab spring; Islamists will gain power.<br /><br />Thus dhimmitude sets in and Islam is dominant. <br /><br />This isn't about demonistation but about seeing the patterns of history. Lebanon was once a Christian majority country but now look at it. <br /><br />Britain and much of Europe could be looking at civil war. <br /><br />Robert Spencer and anti-jihadists are not and cannot say that all Muslims are bad. But they can't pretend that they cannot see the patterns of Muslim conquest. So we cannot either. <br /><br />Read this article to show how Robert Spencer is trying not to lump all Muslims together<br /><br />http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/281771/truth-about-islam-robert-spencer?pg=3Halyconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-37608352798578126012011-11-01T16:41:07.389+00:002011-11-01T16:41:07.389+00:00Thank you all for the comments.
Yakoub - I know, ...Thank you all for the comments.<br /><br />Yakoub - I know, the description was relative to others in the field.<br /><br />Gary, ad hominem racism?<br /><br />Halcyon - as I point out in the article, there is nothing wrong with opposing Islamic extremists - in fact everyone should, what is wrong and unacceptable is blanket demonization of all Muslims which is clearly what Spencer and Geller do.Colm Ó Broinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355888629941490877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-21469558531894984142011-11-01T13:02:23.974+00:002011-11-01T13:02:23.974+00:00"Spencer the intellectual heavyweight"
..."Spencer the intellectual heavyweight" <br /><br />He's not actually an academic trained in Islamic Studies, though.Yakoubhttp://www.steampunkshariah.info/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-77766996736868397772011-11-01T11:59:18.141+00:002011-11-01T11:59:18.141+00:00Halycon, save your breathe. The author is another ...Halycon, save your breathe. The author is another thick Irish prick. Wouldn't have clue even if the Blarney stone fell on his head.Mad Dog Gazzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13924660756119419467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8166262999454816353.post-21856857510266386482011-11-01T10:26:46.997+00:002011-11-01T10:26:46.997+00:00It could take a long time to refute all of the hor...It could take a long time to refute all of the horrendously stupid points that you have made, but I will try to at least talk about some.<br /><br />Saying that Muslims can lie is like saying Muslims can breathe air. It doesn't make them inhumane, it's just something everyone ends up doing. The only difference is what they lie about, which can be about extremist intentions, which have a serious effect on national security. <br /><br />Could you at least list some evidence to the contrary that the Koran instructs Muslims to use violence instead of leaving that statement hanging?<br /><br />The anti-Jihadists report on actual events that really happened, and if that maked people look bad well then you cannot alter the truth. These anti-Jihadists are not a news channel that reports on the weather and such. They are supposed to be bringing about evidence to prove their point, and they have attained a vast amount of evidence for their case over these years. This is like a debate, one side has an argument and they are out to refute the points made by the other side(s). <br /><br />But there is a real hysterical obsession with you that this is all leading to a "final solution". Based on what exactly? Bill O'Reilly once commented that you can't kill all the Muslims and it would just be a ridiculously costly measure that probably won't even work. The point is that the Germans and the West, learned there lessons from that.<br /><br />But the same cannot be said for Muslims that openly call for the genocide of Jews, and here you are conflating the anti-jihadists with the Nazis.Halyconnoreply@blogger.com